Victoria Park Community Cricket League
Annual General Meeting 2005 Minutes | Agenda
|BV||Bert Vandemark (President)|
|MR||Mick Reid (Chairman)||Rose and Crown|
|Tim Castle (Secretary)||Old Fallopians|
|Peter Hollman (Fixtures)||Pacific|
|Red Saunders||Caledonian Conquerors|
|SM||Stuart McClean||Chats Palace|
|Rizwan Ali||Goldman Sachs|
|Dheraj Shamoo||Island Community Cricket Club|
|Steve Hill||Island Community Cricket Club|
|Danny Parkash||Norfolk & Chance|
|Martin Berry||Norfolk & Chance|
|Mukesh Raja||Norfolk & Chance|
|PF||Peter Frisby||Old Fallopians|
|Sean Feeney||Rose & Crown|
|Ossie Joseph||Royal Inn|
|Daryl Johnson||Tower Ravens|
|Michael Biggs||Tower Ravens|
|Paul Williams||Tower Ravens|
|NA||Nimo Ahmed||Traditional Corsairs|
|EC||Emran Chowdhury||Vallance Bow|
|NC||Nick Coke||Vallance Bow|
|AD||Alastair Dunning||Victoria Lounge|
|JC||John Challinor||Victoria Park|
1 – Apologies
Alex Hussian, Sky
Ashley Qualye, Island
Nigel Richards, Victoria Lounge
2 – Approve last year’s minutes
The 2005 minutes were approved
3 – Treasurer’s report
As the Treasurer was absent ill, TC gave the report
TC reported that the league’s banks balance was comfortable. He pointed out pitch fees are roughly the same price as before, though price of cricket balls is rising.
The room for the the meeting today cost £50. There were several enquiries as to whether the Royal Inn on the Park should be sponsoring the league
MR asked about costs for this year. TC replied that they would probably be the same as 2004, but are not yet finalised
|Feb 1 2004 - 21 Feb 2005|
|Cash at bank||676||54||340|
|Sublet of pitches||51|
|Balance at bank||755||676||54|
|1. These accounts were compiled over 1 year and 3 weeks in order to include the expenditure on 2004 pitch fees on 17 February.
These were arrears for 2004. Six pitches were unused because of rain and have been credited by the council for 2005.
2. After many requests the bank has finally sent the treasurer account statements.
It shows that Tower Ravens are owed £45 as they overpaid their 2004 fees.
Also, four teams still owe the extra £30 for 2004 and will be contacted seperately.
3. Hall hire - today's meeting will cost £50 for room hire
4. The treasurer will investigate the lack of interest on the account.
5. Website fees are still due to Tim Castle of £110.
4 – Secretary’s report
TC noted some issues arising from 2004
- The committee had to deal with discipline problems too often
- The league should not be used as batting practice by weekend teams
- After much lobbying the council had agreed to repair the third wicket at Victoria Park
- The nets are also to be rebuilt, with ECB money
- The league won an award for promoting cricket at the Canary Wharf Sports Development Awards in November 2004
- Seven new teams this season is a big increase and will stretch the league’s adminstrative abilities
- Reminder of rule 17 that when it rains the team that does not want to play has the option to cease the game
5 – Teams leaving
It was noted that ECC, Sleek and Reuters would not be
playing this summer
6 – Election of new teams (Island, Goldman Sachs, Norfolk & Chance, Royal Inn, Traditional Corsairs, Vallance Bow and Victoria Park Juniors)
MR noted that the existing protocol would be in place for accepting new teams and that they would not be allowed to vote during this meeting
TC noted that it would be difficult to accommodate all the proposed teams if for some reason we only have two pitches, but it was feasible
SH talked about the Island squad, a mixture of youth and adults with their own pitch on the Isle of Dogs
RS asked if the introduction to youth players meant that clubs or the league had to have extra policies in place in case of injury.
RB noted that Pacific, which is an ECB-accreddited club, had a welfare policy in place.
SH said that it was up to the teams that included youths to ensure that they were aware of the rules for their age group (e.g. wearing helmets) rather than the responsibility of other teams
JC confirmed this, noting that ECB development teams already have a mixture of youth and adult players. He added that most of the players of his teams would be familiar with playing with adults in weekend 3rd or 4th XI fixtures.
RA introduced the Goldman Sachs team; the company was keen to get involved in community events.
MB spoke on Norfolk & Chance who have around 16 players and are keen to be involved in a league
NA said the Traditional Corsairs are a squad of friends based in Walthamstow. Sky introduced them to the midweek league, but they insist they are not as good as Sky.
NC introduced Vallance 2nds. Vallance have, now that players from Tower Hamlets and Bow are together, enough players for a second team It was agreed the side would be called Vallance Bow
OC introduced Royal Inn in the Park, a team formed by regulars from the pub and some weekend players
CS proposed and HM seconded Norfolk & Chance
RS proposed and RS seconded Corsaris
MR proposed and TC seconded all the other clubs
All clubs were voted in unanimously.
NB motion 8.1
7 – Fixtures and league structure (possible
fixture structures previously circulated) / For Fixture secretary’s report
click here. NB
motions 8.2, 8.3. 8.4, 8.14
8 - Rule-changing motions (these are proposed motions, they each need seconding before they can be debated)
- NEW TEAMS (proposed by
That any new league side must have already previously played in the cup OR that they have previously played against a current league side who can sponsor their application, one of whom must attend the new side's 1st game & report to the committee thereafter.
seconded, not carried
- TEAMS 9-A-SIDE, GAMES 18 OVERS
Increase the number of players to 9-a-side, and the number of overs to 18 per innings, to allow more players from a club’s squad to play mid-week games.
Not seconded, not carried
- LEAGUE STRUCTURE (PACIFIC)
That the league continue the 2004 fixture structure (ie Super6s/7s). The fixtures to be based on the final standings of 2004.
Seconded by Tower Ravens, passed unanimously
- TWO SEPARATE DIVISIONS
The league to be played in two separate divisions.
seconded, not carried
- UMPIRES (TOWER RAVENS)
One independent umpire to be provided for each match from the opposite pitch.
Seconded by Chats
RH pointed out
that this does not guarantee impartiality, is against the spirit of the league
and is difficult to organise. SM and TC wondered if players could bring eight
players plus umpire. RB thought it too difficult to get nine players. SF pointed
out that innings finish at different times, therefore it is difficult to
organise. AD said players wanted to stay with their own team and game, not
PH suggested a pool of umpires from teams with large squads; umpires could be drawn from this
PW replied that there would be little problem of impartiality if the league was split, and that there are so many umpiring disputes that soemthing had to be done
MR asked how the rule would be enforced if teams did not swap umpires. PW said this would be the committee’s job.
For 3 Against 5
– Motion not carried
- FULL-PITCHED DELIVERIES
Following a pre-match conversation between the Captains of Pacific & Reuters, ratification that the no ball law referring to full pitched deliveries are as they are in the current laws i.e.. a no ball is called when a bowler who is not slow (ie.the keeper standing back!) is above waist which also means the bowler is given his 1st warning. On the 2nd occasion when no ball is called against the same bowler, the bowler is warned & the Captain advised. On the 3rd occasion, a no ball is called & the bowler withdrawn from the attack. This is the same with a slow bowler (i.e. the keeper standing up) full pitches over shoulder height to the batsman.
is already a rule of cricket. TC to remind teams of this rule before start of
- BATSMEN RETIRE AT 25 (TOWER
Further reduce the retirement score for batsmen to 25 from 50 to make the league more competitive and to get more people involved in the game.
seconded, not carried
- CUP-BATSMEN RETIRE AT 50
That all the same league rule applies in cup i.e.. for batters to retire at 50.
Seconded by Tower Ravens
PH – Works well. RH and SF said that it was better to be consistent between league and cup
For 7 Against 0 Abstension 1 – Motion passed
- LIMITED BOWLING RUN UPS
Limit bowlers run ups to 8 steps (as in the old 40 over league) thereby saving time and helping to ensure matches are completed in fair and safe light.
seconded, not carried
- TEAMS CRYING OFF (PACIFIC)
That any team who fail to fulfil a fixture are charged the full cost of the pitch in addition to forfeiting the match.
Seconded by TC
PH – For motion,
saying that it is unfair that teams share burden when one team pulls out
TC – For motion, saying that around £30 would be the cost payable for pulling out
SF – Against motion, teams want to play, so why fine them for not playing.
For 7 Against 2
– Motion carried
- NAMES OF PLAYERS (PACIFIC)
That all teams submit the full names of those playing at the same time as passing the result to the Webmaster.
Seconded by Sky
TC – Against
motion, as it would be a lot of hassle to administer if the committee wanted to
check who was cup tied for a certain game. But it would not be a problem if it
was for statistical purpoise
AD – Against motion if it made TC’s job harder
The motion was withdrawn, and suggested as a guideline for teams
That any player playing for a non-league side in the cup is not allowed to play for any other side in the cup.
a rule, motion withdrawn
- TROPHIES (PACIFIC)
That all clubs respect the trophies they have won & ensure they are looked after. That they are fully engraved & when requested by the Committee are returned on time. Failure of any Club to ensure this could result in their expulsion.
Seconded by Tower Ravens
For 10 Against 0 - Motion carried
- SUPER 6 SECOND ROUND GAMES
2nd phase games' dates can be moved by application & mutual agreement.
Teams have 7 days after the last 1st phase matches to contact the Fixture Secretary who will be sole arbitrator in the event of a disagreement.
was agreed that this is up to the fixture secretary and teams to decide
- ONE-DAY TOURNAMENT (TOWER
Proposal for a VPCCL one day tournament (on a Saturday or Sunday) between the league teams. The matches could be in a 10 over slog format with the emphasis being on a fun/family day to promote the league especially in light of it's recent award. Obviously the logistics are slightly more difficult at a weekend given a lot of players may already be playing but possibly a suitable date could be found.
was agreed that this was a more organisational matter than a rule change. But
there was a general agreement that a bank holiday competition would be a good
advert for the league. Tower Ravens agreed to take charge of organisation.
- NON-RULE CHANGING MOTIONS:
(again, these all need seconding before debate)
- DISCIPLINARY PROCEDURE
To set up a working party or volunteer to lay out & ratify a formal disciplinary procedure based on previous rulings
for PH to organise if he wanted
- BATSMEN SHOULD WALK
To encourage & remind all teams that within the spirit of the league that batsmen who edge or know they are out should not expect their own team mates to adjudicate but make the decision themselves.
- REMINDER (PACIFIC)
To remind all teams that if a batsman is totally genuine that he was given out incorrectly, the fielding Captain has the option to recall him if he should deem so fit.
– Election of officers
(current officers in brackets
(Mick Reid, Rose & Crown)
Treasurer (Nigel Richards, Victoria Lounge)
Secretary (Tim Castle, Old Fallopians)
Fixtures (Paul Hollman, Pacific)
Committee member (Rob Devaney, Chats Palace)
Committee member (Paul Williams, Tower Ravens)
Committee member (Alex Hussain, Sky)
Hussain to stand down
Mafijur Rab (Vallance) and Rizwan Siddique (Sky) elected to commitee.
TC proposed MR
(Vallance) as a committee member. Seconded by MR
Nigel Richards to continue as Treasurer – proposed by AD, seconded by RH
MR as chairman – proposed by BV, seconded by AD
TC as secretary – PF, BV
PH as fixtures – AD, SF
RS as committee member, PH, RS
The desire of Rob Devaney from Chats to continue as a committee member was unknown
11 – Presentation of Trophies
The league shield was still with Sky and could not be presented Tower Ravens. RS apologised on behalf of Sky and promised to bring the trophy as soon as possible.
Cup was still with Sleek who had not returned it.
12 – Any Other Business
Game. It was noted that BV often picked teams but the players did not turn up.
Tower Ravens were happy to play - OJ would ensure that the President’s team