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Minutes of 2003 AGM, Tuesday February 18, 6 pm
|Nigel Richards||Victoria Lounge / League Chairman|
|Tim Castle||Old Fallopians / League Administrative Secretary|
|Peter Hollman||Pacific / League Fixture Secretary|
|Nozmul Hussain||Sky (new name for Mola Jutt)|
|Red Saunders||Caledonian Conquerors|
|Rob Devaney||Chats Palace|
|Mick Reid||Rose & Crown|
|Iain Heaphy||Rose & Crown|
|Mo Chowdhury||Tower Ravens|
|Paul Williams||Tower Ravens|
|Michael Biggs||Tower Ravens|
|Dan Bird||Victoria Lounge|
|Mian Siddique||Hackney Falcons|
|Ijaz Shaffiq||Hackney Falcons|
|Rizwan Ahmed||Hacney Falcons|
NR addressed those present reminding all how the meeting should be conducted & everybody introduced themselves
TC announced the following apologies:- Mike Hinchlea (Dover Castle), Valance CC, Sabi Rashid (Newham CC), Joe Phelan (Treasurer).
Fixture Secretary Report
to the vast majority of teams wishing to play in the 2nd division at
last year's AGM, it was agreed that a single division with everybody playing
each other once would be used. It was fairly straightforward to draft this,
& fixtures took place on Mondays, Tuesdays & Wednesdays.
to the nature of the fixtures being drawn in this fashion, I decided to tag the
cup to the end of the season.
own feedback was that it was refreshing to play & meet all the sides but I
do understand that there were complaints about disparity in levels &
mismatches. A 2 divisional structure should address these issues.
was concerned by Tower Ravens' late late application last season & that
there was not enough time at that point to redraft all the fixtures fairly. I
would hereby again like to thank Tim Castle who was able to pick up &
resolve the issue with comparative ease once all teams had been approached &
were agreeable to their application & then to playing matches against them
the feedback I have received regarding this, it was not entirely popular playing
the cup at the back end of the season. This year, I anticipate a return to a 2
divisional format with sides playing each other twice, consequently, I intend to
revert to the 2001 formula & insert the cup in mid-season after all the
sides have played each other the once. This will ease rearrangement of weather
affected cup fixtures, & subsequent league games affected can be postponed
teams were unaffected, others not so. Following ECB/ICC style deliberations
including the added complication of 1 team wanting a match rearranged yet
failing to respond to alternative suggestions, this was ultimately resolved. I
would at this point like to thank Jim Davies whom for no fault of his own
volunteered to help, as both Tim & myself were away at that time. However,
he was so exasperated by the experience & lack of co-operation by 1 club in
particular, that he wishes to stress that he would never wish to do similar
again. As we are trying to attract new blood to positions of responsibility, I
would appeal to clubs to give their full co-operation upon request in future.
Additionally, I would like to see all teams make known any date that is not
convenient to the Fixture Secretary ideally within 14 days of this meeting but
at the very latest before the season gets underway.
Crescent & other non-Victoria Park Park pitches.
is also my understanding that the groundswell of resistance to playing fixtures
away from Victoria Park has heightened. I fully agree that in the main VPCCL
matches should & will be played at Victoria Park. However, it is my opinion
that even with 3 fully functional pitches, that for the league itself to expand
a more expansive view is required & that new teams of similar standard could
& should be accommodated at alternative venues. That said, unless any team
would specifically not like to do so, all this year's games will be scheduled at
on information about 2 weeks old, I drafted a 2 divisional set of fixtures with
matches commencing on Tuesday 29th April & ending on Thursday 14th
August. This is based on 2 divisions of 7 teams in each - anymore sides would
mean using Mondays (not Bank Holidays) & each side would play once a week in
a div of 8 if we are only using the 2 available pitches at Victoria Park. This
would contain the dates to within the aforementioned parameters.
END OF FIXTURE SECRETARY'S REPORT
Chair Nigel Richards confirmed his
resignation but that he was standing for Treasurer. Mick Reid was proposed by
Bert Vandermark & seconded by Don Bodie. Elected unopposed
Treasurer – Nigel Richards proposed by Peter Hollman seconded by Don Bodie. Elected unopposed.
Secretary Tim Castle elected unopposed.
Fixtures Secretary Peter Hollman elected unopposed.
Executive Committee member Rob Devaney proposed by Peter Hollman, seconded by Red Saunders. Elected unopposed
Executive Committee member Paul Williams nominated by Mo Chaudhury seconded by Dan Bird. Elected unopposed
break 8.05pm - 8.15pm.
discussion during the break, it became clear that Tower Ravens & Caledonian
Conquerors placed in Division 1 were prepared to opt out of the division &
Red Saunders in particular believed he had been mislead into voting for two
Divisions, as he wanted Caledonian Conquerors to be in the 2nd division.
Nigel Richards averted the crisis by agreeing to revisit the issue & to the taking of a re-vote now that it was apparent that with 9 in div 2 & 5 in div 1 was popularly agreed was unworkable with both Pacific & Victoria Lounge adding to the dissent.
Consequently, a re-vote on the same motion was taken with 5 in favour of 1 division, 3 against 1 abstention.
9. Tower Hamlets Council liaison volunteer –
someone required to work alongside Bert to ensure that the pitches are in a fit
state and that the third pitch is usable again.
Bert Vandermark confirmed that there are 2 re-laid pitches at Victoria Park but that the 3rd would not be available for 2003. Nigel Richards said the league needs a Tower Hamlets resident to add pressure. Michael Biggs volunteered & would liase with Bert Vandermark & Tim Castle , the latter to provide past lobby details if available.
Peter Hollman referred back to his report from earlier regarding this issue. In summary, for the fixtures to be played on 2 pitches on 4 days , only 16 teams can be accommodated at the maximum. With 14 being included this year, this will not be an issue & all games will be scheduled for Victoria Park.
i. Non Attendance at AGM – Proposed Points
deduction from 2004
Mick Reod against points reduction. Don Bodie agreed. Tim Castle withdrew motion.
ii. Late Payment of Subs - Proposed Points
deduction from 2004
Tim Castle withdrew motion on same criteria as above.
b) League Fees
League fees will be paid by …date tbc
Match Fees, we agreed that £200 should be paid by March 1st, with the balance (probably £75 this year) to be paid by April 15.
c) August matches.
August matches to start by 6.15 pm
Mick Reid was against this stating that there was already provision for this in the current rules & a rule change was not necessary. General consensus was not in agreement however & the motion was passed 6 in favour, 2 against, 3 abstentions.
d) Deciding League winners.
i) Top place in each Division to be decided by
result against team finishing third. If that does not resolve the matter the
result against the next lowest team will count until all teams have been
ii) Captains of the joint top teams can agree to a play–off for the title – this date will be provided for in the fixture list.
Peter Hollman explained Joe Phelan's proposal but following discussion is was voted by 8-1 that the title should be shared & no other format of decider including play-offs should be engaged
e) Non Availability of Teams
All teams will provide the Fixtures Secretary with
dates of their non-availability by ... date tbc.
It was agreed that all teams will submit any dates that they are unavailable for to the Fixture Secretary by 4/3/03.
f) Engraving Trophies
The League shall pay for the engraving of the
League and Cup trophies. Medals for individual performance will
be paid for by individual teams.
MR disagreed & maintained that traditionally the league should pay for engraving & 10 medals for the league & cup winners. Individual honours were not directly discussed. 9 in favour of MR's revised proposal , 1 against & 1 abstention.
g) Give the rest of the team more of a batting
chance (proposed by Red Saunders of Caledonian Conquerors)
When a batsman reaches 50 he has to retire and can only come back at the end of the innings. The way we do it in the winter indoor league [14 overs] the batsman retires at 25 and come back in at the end of the order; the previous out batsman runs only, It works very well indoors.
Following discussion, 7 passed the motion for, 2 against to introduce this for all league matches. **Following further discussion by the committee after the meeting, it was agreed that the retired batsman would return at the fall of the sixth wicket (or earlier if more than one batsman had retired). In other words, he would NOT, as in indoor cricket, return after the seventh wicket and bat with a runner.
h) Motions raised on the night-
Peter Hollman suggested that this year's Presidents v Champions game should be an unofficial title play off between last years winners. Mick Reid wished for Bert Vandermark to give his opinion who wanted his side to play a combined winners side.
General consensus was that if Pacific & Sky (Mola Jutt) wanted a play off, they could do this outside the official league fixtures.
Peter Hollman suggested given the absence of 2 divisions or a decider that play offs could be introduced for the top 4. Again popular consensus was that these should be played outside the season proper & the auspices of the league.
14. Any Other Business
Red Saunders again stressed the importance of punctual starts.
Mian Siddique of Hackney Falcons was presented with the cup.